Curse

dansamy · Apr 19, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyhats

pretty much this exact build was posted in Nov 05 by Peligro Puro on gameamp

link

I believe I already pointed out that Peligro was the earliest known (that I am aware of) to use a R/Mo (and later R/N) grawl farmer. When he 1st started doing the grawl farming, I used to aid him with my emo smiter (before the nerf of Ether Renewal) so that he wouldn't die before the grawl did. Once he learned the best way to keep himself alive, he no longer needed the additional healing from RoF spam.

Gg Maya.

Jack Valmont · Apr 19, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Out of all the videos I've seen and the different ways I've tried--he's got it done the best way.

On the run:

1) Edge of Extinction
2) Troll Unguent + Dodge
3) Lightning Reflexes
4) Whirling Defences

On the hill:

5) Troll Unguent + Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain
6) Oath Shot + Lightning Reflexes + Troll Unguent
7) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain + Whirling Defences

Then they die. I usually don't use the Lightning Reflexes the second time, but it's something I'm definitely going to try. I'm also running the Alana Pepski spawn now.

I'm also writing the a guide for GuildWiki. Once it's done, we should all have a better understanding of how to do this run.

The drops still suck hardcore, but I'm loving every moment of this run.

I'm using Scroll of Rampager's Insight at the bottom of the hill. I love my skill points.

Yunas Ele · Apr 19, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Im having absolutely no luck doing this. I'm taking like 10x as much damage than he did in the video, and yes I have perfect armor, sup vigor, etc.. and my damage output is like 10x less.... what am I doing wrong??

Jack Valmont · Apr 20, 2006, 01:46 AM // 01:46

This is what you need to know:

The setup: make sure no Grawl are nearby.

Prep:
1) Troll Unguent, then Dodge
2) Run to the end of the area (where he turns around and runs)
3) Hit Lightning Reflexes
4) Run to Hill
5) Use Whirling Defence once Lightning runs out.
6) Get to top of hill (choose one, it doesn't matter)

Top of hill:

This is when you really need to just press the buttons in the right order. This is what I do:

1) Troll Unguent
2) Press C (Target Closest)
3) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain (make sure they go one after another.
4) Press C. Oath Shot.
5) Lightning Reflexes again! (Whoa! A new development!)
6) Troll Unguent again.
7) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain. Hit Whirling Defences as soon as Mark Of Pain is cast. This will allow the Grawl to group up around you once again so that no one gets away easily.

They will now all die.

This is what you need:

Druids Armor
Optional: Bow of Perfect Fortitude +30 HP (Tarnok's or something)
Mask of Superior Expertise
Mask of Superior Beast Mastery
Rune of Minor Wilderness Survival
Rune of Major/Superior Vigor

Attributes:
Curses +5
Beast Mastery +11 + 1 + 3
Expertise +11 + 1 + 3
Wilderness Survival +7 + 1 (I'm not entirely sure about this, but dump rest of points into it).

I use the first hill now. Run diagonally across so that you don't end up at the very top. Then start what I just discussed.

It helps having +30 Attribute points. Trust me, it really really does.

I Might Avenge U · Apr 20, 2006, 02:25 AM // 02:25

plz read this post ppl.

THIS STILL WORKS AFTER AOE PATCH!!!!!(hypno!=)<<lol smiley and parenthases

ok now all of you people who message me ingame about this build after AOE patch plz dont if u read this post!

Speacial thanks to jack(WHO SPELT MY NAME WRONG IN VIDEO THANKS!!![i MIGHT avenge u] not IWAY, IMAY!)who made that instruction vid. I will be happy to help ne1 this weekend when im on. btw GG on winning HOH YUNA! (yes i know ur looking at this post!=)<<<lol!

(Yuna I can help u this weekend if u want just pm in game on FRI,SAT,or SUN if im on =)<<<lol!!

Darkgift Risen · Apr 20, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

HOLY SITBALLS!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS THE COOLEST FARM VIDEO YET!!!!!!!!!!!!OMFG I GOTTA TRY THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NICE BUILD DOOD...Dark

Jack Valmont · Apr 20, 2006, 11:52 PM // 23:52

It's all everybody else.

sh4ft3d · Apr 21, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Truly amazing video. I can't believe I didnt notice it before.

Peligro Puro · Apr 21, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

I must say, it is very interesting that a thread this large and this active has grown from a single video I posted 10 months or so ago. For all of you that are wondering, here is the current build/strat, and reasoning behind the method. I run on average a 9/10 success rate with my longest streak being 54.

Skills
Troll
Throw Dirt
Mark of Pain
Dryders defence
Whirling defence
Oath Shot
Dodge
Rez sig

Run with 2 masks, beast mastery mask with superior beast mastery, and expertise mask with minor expertise.

Att spread(with beast mask)
10 curses
13 beast
9 expertise
10 wilderness

Att spread(with exp mask)
10 curses
9 beast
10 expertise
10 wilderness

The whilring is by no means the thing that kills or sets off the edge bomb. The combination of whirling, + a 30dmg mark of pain kills things faster than whilring ever will.

The 13 in beast mastery is enough to kill the casting grawls with the first bomb (about 6/7 out of 10 runs) (45 dmg EoE bomb)

Casting order
With beast mask, drop EoE, and switch to exp mask
Troll
Dodge
Whirling
Troll
Dryders
Throw Dirt
Mark of Pain
Oath shot
Dyrders
Throw dirt
Mark of Pain
Whirling

If done in this order, you will never need to worry about grawls running away because no AoE dmg will be set off until you hit your second whirling. With 2 30 dmg mark of pains, the grawls will drop in about 2 seconds.

Any further questions, feel free to PM me in game.

Peligro Puro

Jack Valmont · Apr 22, 2006, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Casting order
With beast mask, drop EoE, and switch to exp mask
Troll
Dodge
Whirling
Troll
Dryders
Throw Dirt
Mark of Pain
Oath shot
Dyrders
Throw dirt
Mark of Pain
Whirling

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Split up into catagories with a little variation I found helped a little:

Prep Run

1) Troll Unguent + Dodge

2) Whirling Defence

Hill

1) Troll Unguent, then Dryder's Defence (allowing enough time for Oath Shot)

2) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain (You can wait 2 seconds and Throw Dirt to avoid the initial spike of Grawl smacking you around

3) Oath Shot

4) Dryder's Defence OR Whirling Defence (If you feel like you might die from the extra 5-6 seconds of taking damage, use Whirling Defence--this is your PANIC BUTTON)

5) Troll Unguent + Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain

6) Whirling Defence (if not used before)

Aftermath

1) Use Dodge + Troll Unguent to pick up initial drops

2) Oath Shot

3) Whirling Defence, and so on.

Remember to press [C] before using Throw Dirt and Mark Of Pain, do it each time you use it.

Tefnut · Apr 24, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

too much crone... for me doesn't work

Jack Valmont · Apr 24, 2006, 11:20 PM // 23:20

This worked for me all morning:

Prep:

1) Edge of Extinction
2) Dodge + Troll Unguent
3) Run to gether Grawl
4) Whirling Defence
5) Run directly towards hill and run diagonally up

Hill:

1) Troll Unguent then Dryder's Defence
2) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain
3) Oath Shot
4) Once Mark Of Pain starts running out hit Oath Shot then rapidly hit Dryder's Defence + Troll Unguent as fast as you possibly can.
5) Throw Dirt + Mark Of Pain
6) As soon as Mark Of Pain is activated, use Whirling Defence to kill them all. It should take no more than 5 seconds.

The idea is to keep Dryder's Defence and Troll Unguent for 20 second straight while you cast Throw Dirt and Mark Of Pain twice. As long as you can keep these two skills up, you will stay alive long enough to cast Mark Of Pain twice--which is your big damage dealer.

Because of the Monk boss, Anet likes to keep us on our toes--They gave him Healing Seeds. This will really screw you over if he casts it on the Grawl surrounding you.

Jack Valmont · Apr 25, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Grawl_Bombing_Run'

I finally started that guide in the GuildWiki

Anyone want to add improvements? I'm taking pictures and stuff for it.

Peewee · Apr 25, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Ok, recently while Grawl bombing i have got many requests from people asking me how it is done. This is a lot more attention than i am used to for Grawl bombing. I have also noticed many more R/N and R/Mo in port sledge.

Anyway, becuase i am a nice kinda guy

, i can show you how the bomb is done, where to put EoE, and what skills to use when etc. I run on GMT+0 time, and my character name is Elenof Greenstone. If you want help then you can find me in Port Sledge international 1.

Pls, for the love of god, do not whisper me if you do not see me in Port Sledge.

I am a pvp player at heart, but even i need money, hence the farming. I will not take kindly to people whispering me while i am in the middle of gvg. If you have not seen me after 5 mins in quoted district, likelyhood is i am not Grawl bombing. If you see me there, then by all means invite urself or whisper me.

I shall not charge (for now), i will simply show you what to do, what skills to use, and what attributes and weapons to use.

It is a very difficult farming technique, and tbh describing what i do here is a waste of time. took me about 100 times to get it down right, tho that was from scratch. hopefully with a little help you can be bombing much faster.

I will tell you what skills i use though:
1)Oath Shot
2)Whirling Defence
3)lightning reflexes
4)Dryders Defences
5)Throw Dirt
6)Mark of Pain
7)Troll Ungent
8)Edge of Extinction

runes and equipment
Druids Armour with vigour rune, minor expertise, minor wilderness.
Headpeices Tamers mask with sup Beast mastery
Expertise Mask with sup Expertise
Wildreness Survival Mask with Superior Wildreness survival

Blankets for the Settlers Bow (2 absorbtion while in stance) -not entirely neccasry, but it helps.
Gorrels Staff (+30 +30 mod) -again, not needed, but really helps when you need to pick up lots of stuff and are taking a bit of dmg.

regarding the wiki page, the link is wierd, wiki cant find it, but it is there :/

Anyway, i use a slightly different method (i think throw dirt is the first thing u should do once on the hill) and i dont use whirling at all until mark of pain and blind is down as it tends to scatter them. i said i wouldnt go into describing the run, but meh.

1)drop EoE
2)switch to wildreness survial mask
3)troll ungent (+9 regen)
4)switch to expertise as i run to grawl
5)aggro grawl
6)use dryders defences (9 secs) when, and not before troll ungent is finished (troll ungent should have absorbed most of dmg taken up till this point)
7)keep aggroing
8)lightning reflexes(10 secs) once dryders is down.
9)run to top of hill
10)throw dirt
11)mark of pain (26 dmg)
12)at this point lightning reflexes is proberly close to ending, so whack up whirling as soon as u stick on mark of pain, or just before if neccasary
13)troll ungent (7 regen)
14)dance while Grawl drop around you

again, there is a bit more to it than that, so come find me if u need a little bit of help. I will try your method Jack, but if i fail, its usually due to some grawl coming close to me as a plant EoE, or a bad spawn in general. All i know is that my method works for me, i can take down the Warrior boss if i get good spawn.

Jack Valmont · Apr 25, 2006, 02:45 AM // 02:45

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Grawl_Bombing_Run

There was a quote thing after it.

I'd have to disagree that Throw Dirt is the first thing you should do. The Grawl are at least 1-3 seconds behind you. The Dryder's Defenses/Whirling Defense is enough to hold them off for the maybe 1-2 second spike you'll get in that timeframe.

You're method is good--but a concern of mine is that you don't get far away from your Edge of Extinction spirit so that it doesn't attract the Grawl. As long as you don't let the Grawl near your spirit and you keep your skills queued while you're on the hill (meaning you keep a constant Dryder's Defenses and Troll Unguent while casting Throw Dirt and Mark of Pain), this build has a 90% success rate.

Stabber · Apr 25, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Your GuildWiki post has, unfortunately, angered the orthodoxy. This is partly because (Grawl) farming is not too respectable in the circles that frequent GuildWiki, and partly because your article did not fit the several ephemeral build article guidelines there. (Full disclosure: I hate farming and despise farmers. Of all kinds.)

I have taken the liberty of editing it severely. In particular, a lot of the obvious stuff like "hit C to target closest", etc. was snipped as the Wiki assumes a certain level of clue among its readers.

Fay Vert · Apr 25, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

I disagree with editing things like that out. For Gwarl farming, the specifics of what you do and were are vital, one thing wrong and you die. No wiki should be written on the assumption that the reader doesn't actually need to know!

And islike of farming or not. Grawl bombing is one of the most impressive things you can do. I'd recommend everyone to try it even if you got zero xp and zero gold out of it. It's a nice challenge and looks amazing.

Fay Vert · Apr 25, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Wow!

I've just gone to read about it on GuildWiki and OMG!!!

What a nasty twist has happened to what I previously thought a great site! A Wiki getting so heavily censored!

Ridiculous, they even censor the talk!!!

Care to censor this one out while you are at it

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Invincible_Monk

Stabber · Apr 25, 2006, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

What a nasty twist has happened to what I previously thought a great site! A Wiki getting so heavily censored!

Ridiculous, they even censor the talk!!!

Don't be ridiculous. Nothing is censored.

The article was merely moved to its proper name.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/R/N_Grawl_Bomber

If you have an objection to GuildWiki policies, bring it up there. There are several people who will agree with you, and several who won't.

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EDIT: Proper places to voice your concern about GuildWiki policies:

Any one of those three pages will be read by a large percentage of the active GuildWiki community.

ggkthxbye · Apr 25, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

I say there is nothing wrong in maintaining layout and style of character builds.

So I say go GuildWiki.